Friday, 7 July 2017

40k: Old Tournament List


I mentioned in the last blog post that I was looking to recreate my original Dark Templar tournament list from back in October 2001. Well, I managed to find a dodgy photo or two of the army. As you can see it's made up of lots of old school models, before we had many extra bitz on sprues (or even twin-linked lascannons for razorbacks!), and is in my original Dark Templar scheme of (very) dark green and black (awful colour scheme with hindsight as there is no contrast).


The list itself (from what I can tell) uses the Black Templar listing from within the 3rd Ed Armageddon Codex, and looks something like this:

Chaplain with bolt pistol and crozius

Emperor's Champion with bolt pistol and black sword

Troop Squad 1
Initiate with bolt pistol and power sword
Initiates (x4) with bolt pistols and chainswords
Neophyte x1 with bolt pistol and combat blade
Razorback with twin-lascannons

Troop Squad 2
Initiate with bolt pistol and power sword
Initiates (x4) with bolt pistols and chainswords
Neophyte x1 with bolt pistol and combat blade
Razorback with twin-lascannons

Troop Squad 3
Initiate with bolt pistol and power sword
Initiates (x4) with bolt pistols and chainswords
Neophyte x1 with bolt pistol and combat blade
Razorback with twin-lascannons

Troop Squad 4
Initiate with bolt pistol and power fist
Initiate with meltagun
Marines (x3) with bolt pistols and chainswords
Neophytes x4 with bolt pistol and combat blade
Rhino

Troop Squad 5
Initiate with bolt pistol and power fist
Initiate with meltagun
Marines (x3) with bolt pistols and chainswords
Neophytes x4 with bolt pistol and combat blade
Rhino

Troop Squad 6
Initiate with bolt pistol and power fist
Initiate with meltagun
Initiates (x4) with bolt pistols and chainswords
Neophytes x4 with bolt pistol and combat blade
Rhino

Land Speeder with Heavy Bolter

Land Speeder with Heavy Bolter




As you can see there is lots of duplication, the idea being that no individual loss would be devastating and that there was a lot of mobility. Rhino rush with the three big squads, pop enemy transports with the melta and mop up what's left in combat – the three Razorback squads would roam around lending support where needed, whilst the Speeders played hit and run with lighter vehicles and T5 troops.

This would have been a 1500 point army back in 3rd Edition – that's 48 marines in total (if you include Neophytes) with over 100 attacks combined per combat round, 3 twin-linked lascannons, 3 melta guns and 2 heavy bolters. From what I remember it did ok, but never set the world alight (largely due to my poor tactics and inability to create a truly merciless army list).

Interestingly, in the new Imperial Index, this army would appear to come out at approximately 1586 points. Not a lot of difference, but I just don't think it's got the teeth to stand up to the new rules.

So, rather than recreate this army verbatim, maybe I'll do an 8th Edition interpretation of this list. Time to get my thinking cap on – any ideas?


6 comments:

  1. Razorbacks are very good now, but the problem I think you'll have with this kind of list is that 'troops' tactical squads are a bit lacklustre at the moment - you might be better off looking at doing sternguard squads, the -2AP on their bolters is fantastic and you can easily throw some vanguard veterans in transports for the combat punch.

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    1. Ooh! Now that sounds interesting. Thank you :D

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  2. Whoa, old school.
    I've got no idea how the new rules work (still stuck in 2nd and 4th edition), but this should be a viable army in any edition in my opinion.

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    1. Lol, my head will forever be in 4th edition I think – my glory days ;)

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    2. 4th edition still has the best ruleset in my opinion. 2nd edition was cheeky and Fun, but highly unbalanced. 3th edition was a disaster as GW struggled with the step up to larger armies. But 4th is a gem, excellent codexes and rules and none of the madness which started at the 5th edition.
      I heard many comments on how good the newest edition is though, so I might check it out.

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  3. No real idea about the roolz. But I love that colour scheme; I hear what you're saying about the lack of contrast, but they do look like ol' skool DA.

    So whilst your new list might be an update on this army's theme, so your new colourscheme should be an update on this army's paint job.

    Well, you did ask...

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